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Hasak Rain
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.15 14:24:00 -
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You could always switch other damage types.
Why not? for years when I had concerns about the lack of EM damage that Amarr does to other ship's tanks, I was told "To switch races." All you have to do is switch missiles. 
Even the Devs said that when they designed the Drake. Dude said "Nobody is forcing you to use Kinetic" when you all whined about the new Drake on the test server while they were doing their last minute modifications to the design of those ships. If that is the Dev's stance, I doubt it is going to get changed anytime soon. To change it, I would assume that the race would have to swallow a hefty across the board nerf elsewhere.
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Hasak Rain
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.15 14:29:00 -
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 Originally by: Shemaul
Bring back damage bonus applied to every type of missile fitted.
We do only one kind of damage per missile.
Tired to be the only race that tells foes "don't forget your kin hardener when u fight me!".
At least they have to fit a hardener. They didn't have to fit ANYTHING when facing an Amarr ship.
Cry more.
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Hasak Rain
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.15 15:18:00 -
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Originally by: Ulstan
Only caldari ship with bonuses to kinetic damage that needs fixing is the hawk. That thing is just terrible. It doess less damage than the Kestrel!! And it's an *assault frigate*
I agree but all AFs need a boost. It is a pretty worthless class of ship.
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Hasak Rain
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.15 16:38:00 -
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Originally by: Pan Dora
Originally by: Hasak Rain
At least they have to fit a hardener. They didn't have to fit ANYTHING when facing an Amarr ship.
Cry more.
So when a amarr call for fixes for his issues that is a request, when a caldari call for fixes its crying? 
Where did I say Amarr players never cried throughout the three years CCP chose to ignore them?
Not to mention Amarr needed fixes while Caldari doesn't. At least not to the extent that the Oper is suggesting.
Any other ignorant remarks that you would like to make?
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Hasak Rain
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.15 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Wet Ferret
Originally by: Hasak Rain
Not to mention Amarr needed fixes while Caldari doesn't. At least not to the extent that the Oper is suggesting.
You remember when people fit Minmatar guns to Amarr ships? I thought that was pretty sad, and you might agree.
Well, switching to unbonused missiles is effectively the same thing. Would you take a 25-50% damage reduction to use a different damage? It just seems like the "versatility" of missiles isn't really there for Caldari (the one exception being the Raven).
Yes it was pretty sad. It shows how messed up Amarr really was.
Taking unbonused missiles isn't the same thing. You can fire Kinetics and hope the target doesn't have good Kinetic resistances but you have the option to switch damage types if that isn't panning out. They have access to all four types to boot.
Meanwhile, Amarr to this day is stuck with EM/Therm. If Amarr becomes fotm because of the recent changes to resistances, you know damn right people are going to change their setups to counter Amarr and we will be back to square one.
Point is, i would much rather have an option to use any damage type I want over being pigeonholed into only EM damage. You are looking down your noses at that choice to switch because it won't have a bonus but it doesn't matter if the new damage type you choose happens to be your target's resistance hole.
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Hasak Rain
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.15 18:54:00 -
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Originally by: Pan Dora
Originally by: Hasak Rain
Any other ignorant remarks that you would like to make?
Maybe some "ignorant remarks":
-shield tank sux >> armor tank rox >> laser sux. Intersting how a issue caldari ship had ended in a issue to amarr ship, no?
-Caldari may use EM, TH ot EX missiles and ignore the +5% to kn dmg bonus. The same way amarr can ignore the -10% to cap use of laser and go with projectiles. It will be a wast of bonuses to amarr, will be a waste bonuses to caldari.
BTW, when I quote you before i make a clear insinuation that you are someone that jsut think like this:
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Not to mention Amarr needed fixes while Caldari doesn't. At least not to the extent that the Oper is suggesting.
Tank you for the confirmation of my argument.
Feel free to ignore my post, its just a bunch of ignorant remarks anyways.
Projectiles aren't an Amarr racial weapon so it shouldn't even be considered when comparing Amarr problems to Caldari problems. Using Projectiles on Amarr ships was just a band aid fix that the players came up since the Devs were too lazy or didn't care to do their jobs.
So uh no. They aren't the same thing. Not even close. When you can convince me that your ships work better with another race's weapons, then you will have a legitimate issue to cry about.
The Amarr boost sure brought out it's share of whiners though. Just because one race which obviously needed some adjustments got some love, I guess that is justification for the other three race's players to expect handouts for their race and free boosts for all. Sorry it doesn't work that way but you will figure that out when your Kinetic bonus still remains years from now or if they do change it, nerf something else. 
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Hasak Rain
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.15 19:54:00 -
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Originally by: Rawr Cristina
Edited by: Rawr Cristina on 15/03/2008 19:48:25
Hmm. /signed. Even if it's just an ROF bonus or a 'half' damage-bonus to other types.
Originally by: Lyria Skydancer
And why would ccp give such a redicilous boost to a race that half of eve is flying because its obviously a very good race? It wont happen.
Yay yet again the "More % of people fly it, therefore it's better" crowd.
He never said it was better than anything. He said it is a "very good race."
And yes, I would agree that half the player base probably wouldn't fly Caldari if it were a gimped race.
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